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Interim Leadership in Fundraising Is More Powerful Than You Think!
Interim leadership is no longer just a stopgap in the executive director’s seat—it’s becoming a strategic engine for sustainable fundraising. Joan Brown, Chief Operating Officer at Interim Executives Academy, and David M. Nicole, CFRE, founder of Headwinds Consulting, share why interim development leadership may be one of the most underused tools in the nonprofit sector.
Together, Joan and David contrast short-term revenue fantasies with the realistic, process-based nature of fundraising. They call out unrealistic expectations—boards and CEOs who imagine the interim will arrive with a magic button and instant major gifts—and instead emphasize assessments, strategy teams, and shared ownership across staff, board, and executive leadership.
Joan opens by reframing the “interim world” as an intentional, structured response to leadership transitions, not just a temporary patch. Interims, she explains, aren’t there to keep a chair warm; they’re there to guide organizations through CEO, COO, and chief development officer transitions with clarity, planning, and structure. With turnover rising and leadership expectations evolving, the data point is clear: every leader leaves, so organizations need a plan that goes beyond wishful thinking.
David brings numbers and nuance from his six interim roles—split between CEO/executive director and development director positions. He describes a model where interim development directors are explicitly hired with clear objectives, defined timelines (often 12–18 months), and a mandate to build systems, not personal empires. His philosophy is summed up in a powerful line:
“My success is not necessarily what I accomplish while I'm there. My success is measured by what the organization accomplishes after I leave.”
The conversation also explores how donors and funders respond when organizations are transparent about using interim leaders. Surprisingly, many donors appreciate the foresight, especially when the message shifts from “we’re in crisis” to “we’re investing in long-term stability.” Community funders are beginning to require succession plans and even encourage interim solutions as a sign of sound governance.
You’ll agree, interim development leadership looks less like a temporary fix and more like a strategic on-ramp to sustainable fundraising, stronger boards, and healthier organizations!!
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